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Title: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on December 31, 2009, 04:22:07 AM
Quick question, colour behind fuse side windows? All the builds I have seen have a different take on this. Is it the same as the interior or an external colour.
Did it differ from model to model (I'm starting a long tailed K in RAF colours)


Title: Re: Quick question, colour behind fuse side windows?
Post by: Allok on December 31, 2009, 04:27:09 AM
Oh look, these are my first posts, better introduce myself.

My name is Keith, I live in New Zealand and build mostly 1/32-scale planes.
Some of you may already know me, most of the time I hang out at LSP (Brads Fault) but this is the best spot for P-40 info.

Thanks,
Keith.


Title: Re: Quick question, colour behind fuse side windows?
Post by: Mark Joyce on January 01, 2010, 10:17:10 AM
Hi Keith,

From the color photos I've seen, the area you are referring to appears to be painted the exterior color(s).  Absent photographs of a specific P-40 I'm modeling that show otherwise, that's the way I go.

HTH,

Mark


Title: Re: Quick question, colour behind fuse side windows?
Post by: Vince_M on January 05, 2010, 10:35:28 AM
I'll concur with what Mark said...


Title: Re: Quick question, colour behind fuse side windows?
Post by: Allok on January 05, 2010, 11:42:21 AM
I tend to agree with you guys.
Hasegawa says to paint it the same colour as the interior.
At the moment, I'm in the middle of extending the fuse (below the tail)

Anybody know if the long tailed Ks have the instrument shroud? Or should you be able to see the back of the instruments?

Keith.


Title: Re: Quick question, colour behind fuse side windows?
Post by: Mark Joyce on January 07, 2010, 01:21:38 PM
From the photographs I've looked at, it appears the long-tail K had the shroud.

HTH,

Mark


Title: Re: Quick question, colour behind fuse side windows?
Post by: P-40 Admin on January 14, 2010, 12:15:40 PM
From a post on my old forum quite a few pages back, this question was brought up and someone said that the Curtiss plant painted the aircraft before the glass was installed so the paint behind the windows would be the same as the paint scheme, the interior dream behind the windows wouldn't be correct unless it was gone in the field after some battle damage or something. If the aircraft was painted later in the field which they often were, they tended not to remove the glass so whenever original scheme was painted, that would most likely be behind the windows yet.


Title: Re: Quick question, colour behind fuse side windows?
Post by: Allok on January 14, 2010, 11:22:29 PM
Thanks guys. Mods done.
Actually, I might start a build thread so you can see what I'm up to.

Keith.


Title: Re: Quick question, colour behind fuse side windows?
Post by: Mark Joyce on January 17, 2010, 12:18:19 AM
Thanks guys. Mods done.
Actually, I might start a build thread so you can see what I'm up to.

Keith.

Please do, Keith!


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on January 18, 2010, 03:53:06 PM
I started this one last April and managed to assemble the Cockpit before other things got in the way.
Now those projects are done, I can get back into this and see how much damage I can do.

I've also posted this build on a couple of other sites but unless I live to be about 150, I might not get the chance to build another P-40 (My stash is starting to bulge a little). So here goes:

The Kit cockpit is very nice and an ease to build. I especially like the seat wich is normally a weak point, even in newer kits. I added some PE Sutton harnesses from PKTinyland and had a go at punching out the kit instrument decals. Apart from that, I've left in pretty much OOB.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures1.jpg)

Some green paint.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures002.jpg)

Another angle.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures003.jpg)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on January 18, 2010, 03:59:37 PM
A little detail painting and belts from Peter Kormos.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures007.jpg)

The other side.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures008.jpg)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on January 18, 2010, 04:09:43 PM
My third attempt at making the IP. A bit of a nightmare but it will have to do. If I fiddle with it anymore, I'll ruin it.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures015.jpg)

All glued in.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures017.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures019.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures018.jpg)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: P-40 Admin on January 18, 2010, 04:18:34 PM
Hi Keith,

Nice to see you posting here, I haven't been back to LSP too much lately other than looking at that thread of that magnificent Huey that my friend Brian from Malta sent me a link for.

I haven't picked up one of these Hasegawa P-40's yet as my closets are bulging with models, but the detail in this cockpit is really good and I agree, the seat is usually a big falling down part in most P-40 models.

Your cockpit looks great all painted up!  If you don't mind me pointing out one thing that I see a lot of people get wrong, all of the P-40 variants left the pilot seat in natural aluminum, they didn't start painting it until the N version. No big deal if it's too late or too much work to change it as it still looks really good. Can't wait to see more progress on it!  :)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on January 18, 2010, 04:21:21 PM
I want to have the flaps down but I've had to do a little extra work.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures011.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures012.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures013.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures014.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures016.jpg)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: P-40 Admin on January 18, 2010, 04:22:09 PM
Oops, I posted this while you were still posting pictures, I see you already have the cockpit put together.  Great job on weathering, nice and subtle and pretty realistic.


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on January 18, 2010, 04:27:18 PM
Your cockpit looks great all painted up!  If you don't mind me pointing out one thing that I see a lot of people get wrong, all of the P-40 variants left the pilot seat in natural aluminum, they didn't start painting it until the N version. No big deal if it's too late or too much work to change it as it still looks really good. Can't wait to see more progress on it!  :)

Cheers Brad
Ah... one of the pitfalls of using a restored bird as a reference.
I guess I had to turn up here eventually. Nice site Buddy.


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on January 18, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
The next issue is the tail. I have added about 20mm to the length of the fuse and raised it a couple of mm.
Got to try out my new Trumpeter etching and riveting tools too.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures010.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures09.jpg)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: P-40 Admin on January 19, 2010, 05:36:56 AM
Yeah, those restored plane have caught me out before as well!  :(

Excellent job on the wings and also on extending the fuselage.  Quite a while ago, I had started doing that to a Revell 1/32 E to make it into a N, not the easiest of conversions, but it sure makes a difference.  Never did finish mine, I will have to pull mine out once I get a couple of these other models off of my desk.  Hopefully finished for a change!  :D



Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Mark Joyce on January 19, 2010, 10:32:49 AM
Nice work, Keith!  I really appreciate your willingness and ability to lengthen the fuselage;  something I wouldn't/couldn't do.  I'll just wait for Hasegawa to release its P-40M/Kittyhawk III!

By the way, what markings are you looking at doing?

Mark


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on January 19, 2010, 02:22:08 PM
I really like this scheme: NZ3060

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/P-40knz3060profile2.jpg)

Here's a photo.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/P-40k15nz3060.jpg)
(both from the internet)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on January 27, 2010, 02:38:10 AM
I've finished glueing all the big bits together. Here's a quick look with the wheels dry fitted;

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures028.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/Pictures029.jpg)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Mark Joyce on January 27, 2010, 12:21:36 PM
It's coming along nicely, Keith!  Good choice of markings, too.  It'll really make a splash once completed.

Mark


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on April 25, 2010, 06:03:59 PM
I've begun painting the exterior. Masking for the wavy lines was done using a pair of scissors borrowed from my wife. She makes srapbook style photo albums for a hobby and has many handy tools.
I guess the white lines will be next.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/004.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/003.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/002.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/001.jpg)

Sorry, that last one's a bit blurry.


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Mark Joyce on April 27, 2010, 09:15:57 AM
Fantastic job on painting it, Keith.  My wife is into scrapbooking as well, and she probably has a pair of those same scissors laying around someplace....nice to know I might have a use for them in the future!

Mark


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on October 31, 2010, 12:44:58 PM
After working on a couple of other projects for a while, I picked up where I left off on this one.
Here's the photos:

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/006.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/009.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/010.jpg)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Vince_M on November 01, 2010, 09:59:36 PM
Excellent work!

 :)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on November 06, 2010, 06:12:12 AM
I have some old RNZAF markings from Roo Decals. The paper was very old and required dunking several time before I could get the decals to budge. The fuse roundel is layered with the yellow circle going over the top of the blue/white/red roundel, with a big clear section in the middle. This proved to be tricky as the decals started to disintegrate as I tried to position them. MicroSol to the rescue.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/011.jpg)

The rest of the Decals will be from the kit sheet.

At this point, I realise the forward white stripe is in the wrong place! Too late to fix it now.
Still, I was using the Hasegawa paint/marking guide and it's correct to that.
BTW, it's in the right place for "Gloria Lyons" but not "Wairarapa Wildcat".


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on November 14, 2010, 05:30:22 AM
Maybe it isn't too late after all.
I painted out the offending stripe,

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/014.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/015.jpg)

remasked...

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/016.jpg)

and painted them in the right place.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/017.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/018.jpg)

Incidentally, if your are doing RNZAF P-40 "Gloria Lyons", the Hasegawa painting and decal guide is correct.


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Mark Joyce on November 14, 2010, 11:04:11 PM
Nice save, Keith!  Glad to see you've been able to continue the build.  It looks great!

Mark


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Vince_M on November 17, 2010, 02:11:01 AM
That is a nice looking paint job.
 :)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: P-40 Admin on November 19, 2010, 04:13:57 PM
Nice fix! Looking great!  :)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on November 21, 2010, 03:45:26 PM
Nice fix! Looking great!  :)
Cheers but I don't know if it's really "fixed"

A little minor progress...
I've managed to complete the decalling and start attaching all the fiddly bits.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/042.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/043.jpg)

The 9 on the nose used to be an 8. The great thing about decals is their flexibility.
Serials are from Ventura and I used the the kit data stencils. I had a note from Brad Hagen that there should also be placards on the fronts of the oleos, so I'm going to paint those:

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/044.jpg)

I used a PE Gunsight from Toms Modelworks and painted the Mastercasters Fishtail exhausts grey (for now)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/046.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/045.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/047.jpg)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on November 23, 2010, 04:24:26 PM
I am still chipping away at this one.
I'm really resisting the urge to heavily sratch this plane as the servicing units kept them in very tidy condition so I've tried to keep it subtle. However, nothing can hide from the Pacific sun so I'll try to fade the paint as much as possible without going overboard.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/048.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/049.jpg)

Oil, dust and smoke are next.
Also, after a note from Brad, you may notice that I have painted the seat silver.


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on November 26, 2010, 02:10:31 AM
A quick question for you clever people...
Who can show me where the aerial wires attach? Does the K still have them going down to the wings?

Also, Does anyone have any colour images of the wheel wells showing the pipes and hoses?


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on November 28, 2010, 05:37:02 PM
Minimal update tonight.
Brakelines, weathering, gunsights and Tyres.

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/050.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/052.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/051.jpg)

The middle shot shows the updated seat colour (Thanks for the tips Brad).
The last shot shows the Oleo placards which, like the sliding Canopy framing, are hand painted.
I know it's wrong but that's just the way I like to do it.


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on November 29, 2010, 06:01:43 PM
More weathering:

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/055.jpg)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on December 05, 2010, 07:26:38 AM
It's all over, here's the end result:

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/056.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/057.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/058.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/059.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/060.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/061.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/062.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/063.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/064.jpg)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/Keithallott/RNZAF%20P40/065.jpg)


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Vince_M on December 07, 2010, 07:07:25 AM

BEAUTIFUL MODEL !!!


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: P-40 Admin on January 11, 2011, 04:53:45 AM
Excellent build and a beautiful model!  Great job on the weathering.  I have been slowly working on another update, way behind on it.  I will post some of these pictures on the site linking to this thread.


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Allok on January 14, 2011, 10:23:57 AM
Excellent build and a beautiful model!  Great job on the weathering.  I have been slowly working on another update, way behind on it.  I will post some of these pictures on the site linking to this thread.
Thanks Brad, that would be awesome.


Title: Re: RNZAF P-40K-15, using the 1/32-scale Hasegawa P-40E
Post by: Mustanger on August 27, 2012, 07:18:54 AM
Very much admire your conversion and paint job.